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Are There JIS and ANSI / ASME Screws? Why Different Thread Systems Cannot Be Mixed



In practice, many people have encountered this situation:

A screw looks about the same size, but it just won’t go in — or it gets stuck halfway.





Most people first suspect size or tolerance issues.However, in most cases, the real problem is: the thread system is different.


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1. What Are JIS and ANSI / ASME Thread Systems?


In screw design, the whole world does not use the same standard.

The two most common systems today come from different countries:

  • JIS (Japanese Industrial Standards) — Japan

  • ANSI / ASME (American National Standards Institute / American Society of Mechanical Engineers) — United States

These two systems developed independently and formed today’s two major systems: metric and inch-based threads.

After 1968, JIS has largely aligned with ISO metric standards, so most modern metric threads are interchangeable.However, in some older equipment, different pitches may still exist.

For example:

  • Current M10 coarse pitch: 1.5 mm

  • Older JIS version: 1.25 mm

Therefore, when dealing with older Japanese equipment, even if it is marked “M”, it is still recommended to measure the pitch to confirm.

On the other hand, ANSI / ASME is a U.S. standard system, but it uses inch units.In engineering classification, thread systems are defined by unit (metric vs inch), not by country.Therefore, ANSI / ASME threads are categorized as the inch-based system.


System Comparison

Item

JIS / ISO (Metric)

ANSI / ASME (Inch)

Unit

mm

inch

Marking

M6, M8, M10

1/4-20 UNC, 5/16-18 UNC

Thread Type

Metric Thread

Unified Thread

Regions

Taiwan, Japan, Europe

USA, export equipment


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2. What Are the Differences?


Simply put, the difference is not just the unit — it is the entire thread design system.


Key Differences

Item

Metric (JIS / ISO)

Inch (ANSI / ASME)

Size Representation

mm

inch

Pitch Representation

Pitch

TPI

Thread Angle

60°

60° (UNC / UNF)

Design Logic

Metric system

Inch system


A common misconception is:Since both metric and UNC/UNF threads use a 60° angle, people assume they can be interchangeable.

But in reality:

  • Thread height is different

  • Pitch calculation is different

  • Contact surfaces are not fully matched

When threads do not fully match, localized stress concentration occurs during tightening, which eventually leads to thread stripping or damage.

Another older system, Whitworth (BSW), uses 55°, making it completely incompatible.


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3. Even Within the Same System, There Are Different Thread Types


Many people think once you distinguish between metric and inch, that’s enough.However, even within the same system, there are different thread types.

Even if the system is correct, the screw may still fail if the thread type is wrong.


Why Are There Coarse and Fine Threads?

Threads are divided based on different application needs such as strength, assembly speed, and resistance to loosening.

In simple terms:

  • Coarse threads → more forgiving, easier to assemble

  • Fine threads → more contact area, tighter and more stable


Metric Thread Types

Type

Description

Coarse

Most common, general-purpose

Fine

Smaller pitch, tighter fastening

Special

Custom applications


Example (M10):

Type

Pitch

Coarse

1.5

Fine

1.25


Inch Thread Types

Type

Description

UNC

General-purpose, coarse

UNF

Higher strength, fine


Example (1/2"):

Type

TPI

UNC

13

UNF

20


The most common mistake on-site is M12 vs 1/2".

Because the diameters are almost identical, the screw may go in for the first few turns.However, due to different pitches (1.75 vs ~1.95), it will eventually jam.

If forced, it will usually damage the thread completely.


Common Size Comparison

Metric

UNC

Approx. Diameter

M6

1/4-20 UNC

~6.35 mm

M8

5/16-18 UNC

~7.94 mm

M10

3/8-16 UNC

~9.53 mm

M12 (1.75)

1/2-13 UNC

~12.7 mm




Metric vs UNC / UNF Thread Pitch Comparison Table



From the table, it can be clearly seen that even if the diameters are the same, as long as the pitch or thread count is different, the threads are completely non-interchangeable.


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4. Why Can’t They Be Mixed?


Many people try to substitute metric and inch threads.

At first, it may seem usable — but in reality, the threads are not properly matched.


What Happens When Mixed?

Situation

Result

Stops halfway

Thread geometry mismatch

Forced tightening

Stress concentration → stripping

Long-term use

Wear or failure


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5. Common Mistakes On-Site


Mistake

Problem

Assuming similar size is acceptable

Wrong system

Forcing when it doesn’t fit

Thread damage

Not checking equipment specs

Wrong selection

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6. How to Identify Quickly?


Method

Clue

Marking

M = metric / fraction = inch

Pitch

decimal = metric / integer = inch

Equipment origin

Japan/EU = metric / USA = inch

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7. How Is This Different from Retaining Rings?



Item

Retaining Rings

Screws

Difference Type

Size difference

System difference

Interchangeability

Sometimes possible

Almost impossible

Result of Error

Loose fit

Thread damage



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8. What Problems Occur If the Thread System Is Wrong?


Problem

Description

Thread seizure

Cannot install/remove

Thread stripping

Damage

Loosening

Failure

Equipment damage

Requires replacement


These issues usually do not occur immediately,but appear gradually after a period of use.

By the time they are discovered, it often requires:

  • Disassembling equipment

  • Re-machining

  • Or replacing parts

Which significantly increases cost.


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9. Why Choose Sheng Fong Precision?


In practice, screw problems are rarely about size —they are about incorrect system selection.

Sheng Fong Precision helps you:

  • Identify correct thread systems

  • Match equipment origin and application

  • Avoid thread damage and rework


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